Rob Carroll has recently produced an incredible tune that truly resonates with me, evoking strong echoes of “That Thing You Do!” It exudes the same vibrant energy and freshness. Both tracks are undeniably catchy, embedding themselves in your mind for days on end. Prepare to be enchanted and unable to shake it off – you’ll simply adore it.

You can discover ‘just about had it!!!’ featured on the Best Power Pop of 2024 Spotify Playlist.

Could you share the journey of bringing this record to life? How did all the pieces come together to create the final product?

So this song “just about had it!!!” is the first release from my new EP. I have been sitting on 50-100 songs I’ve written over the last few years and finally decided to start putting as many as possible out into the world. I wrote these songs myself, as well as played all of the instruments and recorded and mixed everything. It is a very satisfying process to do all the work myself, but it is time consuming and hard to remain objective.

The decision to seek opinions on your new songs is intriguing. When did you realize that external perspectives could contribute to your creative process?

As much as I love pop music and hope to reach as many people as possible with my music, I rarely write with external perspectives in mind. I take into consideration things that might make a song more streamlined (length, chords, density, etc) but rarely write from a place where others are guiding the decisions. That being said, I definitely rely on friends and peers for feedback and take their critiques to heart. I may not always agree, or even follow their advice, but I always listen to it. Wearing all of these hats can make you lose objectivity. Even if I feel their idea is not right for the current song, there have been many instances where I’ve implemented their advice and ideas into new songs I write.

Success can take on different meanings as time goes on. When envisioning success for this new record, what does that picture look like now?

I’m a professional musician full-time. I already make a living from music and in many ways have found certain forms of success. For that reason, the meaning of success for my original music comes in the form of its completion. Having a finished product that I am proud of is what I look forward to most when creating. If streams and followers are gained along the way that’s amazing, but reaching the finish line each time (in a better, more efficient way) is what I strive for.

Defining a song’s completion can be elusive. How do you determine when a composition has reached its final, ready-to-record form?

The ready-to-record stage is actually the easy part for me. When I write I typically try to get “the bones” of a song out first. This means at least a verse and chorus with a melody. If I can get a bridge by this stage as well, that’s awesome. The music tends to be easier and quicker for me, so I will often hunker down and force out some form of lyrics at this point as well. Lyrics have gotten easier over time, but I need to have them in place. If I don’t, the song will sit in my voice memos and often be forgotten. Having lyrics, melody and form for a song complete will ensure that I know that song is ready and find the time to record it. Once I start recording, that’s typically where the infinity of decisions can bog me down. I tend to move fast, but if I’m not careful the arrangement stage can really slow me down.

Lyrics often carry profound meaning. Are there particular lines you hope listeners will always remember from your songs? If so, what’s the significance?

It’s funny because, as a listener, I really don’t care about lyrics. They can’t be egregiously bad, but most of the time I’m not listening to them. As a writer however, I do tend to obsess over my words, meter, rhymes, etc. I want to be proud of what I’m writing, but I also want listeners to be moved as well. It would be nice if listeners enjoyed my lyrics, or thought they were well written, but what is more important to me is that they can relate to the ideas and emotions. If they can make a connection to my music through the words then I’ve done my job.

Performing music before an audience holds a unique allure. What aspects of this experience contribute to the excitement and enjoyment for you?

Being a performer for a living, I get many chances to connect with audiences and thrive off of this feeling every week. It’s even more amazing when you are playing for an audience of people that are interested specifically in you and your music. So often music is relegated to a background role at bars, restaurants and parties. When you get the chance to lock in with a crowd and perform your own music… there is really nothing quite like that.

While you can’t dictate how people interpret your music, are there specific elements you wish to highlight that set your songs apart?

I love awesome harmony, pop music and good songwriting. If people associate those things with my music I’d be incredibly happy.

With the record completed and the music released, do you believe the pinnacle of enjoyment has been reached, or is this just the beginning of an exciting phase?

As I mentioned before, it is definitely the culmination of a lot of hard work. To be able to look back on a finished release is a great feeling. It’s also the start of two different phases. One is trying to build a connection between your audience and this new batch of music. The other is building momentum and energy to start this whole process again from the ground up. Every time you go to record it feels like the first time. Sure, you’ve learned so many things and have gotten better and faster but staring at the blank project session I always seem to think, “can i do this again? Do I still have the ability?” It’s always intimidating but there’s no better feeling than pushing through that and creating more music.